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[Sefora]

Ok so the request i sent to jennifer kesse is still 'pending' for months and month..no yes or no..so im almost certain its jennifers profile.. the main photo has not changed either..and i feel people on facebook usually change their profile pics atleast once every few months right?

Now i have 2 questions:

1- Anyone of jennifers friends or her boyfriend could tell us her last activity on facebook? Maybe she updated a status moments before dissapearing? like "goodnight going to bed" or something like "off to work"..to give us an idea of her last activity?

2- For those who think Rob should be contacted how about through facebook?if Jennifer had one im sure Rob did too?

[MPEA]

he does have one,and so does logan,and also joyce,but dont you people think that if they wanted to tell us anything,they would be on here.ive thought about contacting them also,but i believe they need some kind of space.as for rob,hes probably trying to move on with his life,im sure he still loves her,but he is young and you really cant expect him to stop living,and i think that jenn would probably expect him to do so.its really a sad situation that le will not release all the information they have on this case,dont think it would do any harm,may even allow someone to solve it.like someone said,the poi may even be deceased,and even if he isnt,facts are facts.the way i see it,the only way we will make any progress on this case,is if someone stumbles on something,or someones girlfriend turns someone in,or the poi gets a life sentence on another crime and he spills his or her guts.sorry if i sound a little negative,but thats the way i honestly see this.a lot of things were overlooked by le. at the start,and its too late to go back and check it out now.i myself will never give up on her,after 4 years you might say ive become obsessed with jennifer,not her,but her case.sometimes i go to bed wondering,if i see someone that resembles her i start thinking about it,i still carry on my daily activities,but like willie nelson says,you are always on my mind,and jenn is always on my mind.

[Find_Jennifer]

I agree a little bit with MPEA in that if Rob or the Kesses wanted to talk to us about certain details, they'd probably contact us. Maybe we could post a list of questions directed towards Rob on the forum and see if he responds. I'm sure the Kesses have to be careful about who they share information with and what they share. There are probably freaks out there who are just obsessed with Jennifer or her family as they have been in the national media spotlight.

Has anyone been following the Joran Vander Sloot story that broke this weekend? He's been accused of murdering another woman and this time she was found in a hotel room under his name and an eye witness saw them enter the room together. Ironically this happened on the 5 year anniversary of Natalee Holloway's disappearance. I read tonight that anniversaries trigger something in criminals. So whoever has done this to Jennifer will most likely do it again.

[Sefora]

MPEA..i got to say i agree with everything you said and i feel the exact same way.
Something Ive wandered in the past is why more or Jennifers friends and family are not on the forum..work friends, school friends etc.

[Sefora]

I think whoever abducted jennifer knew she lived alone..so it is someone who knew her..or watched/stalked her.

Do u guys think there is any chance whatsoever that whoever abducted jennifer staged the wet shower? and the clothes on the bed? if the car was left with no evidence, couldnt the apartment have been left the same way?

[Find_Jennifer]

I think whoever abducted jennifer knew she lived alone..so it is someone who knew her..or watched/stalked her.

Do u guys think there is any chance whatsoever that whoever abducted jennifer staged the wet shower? and the clothes on the bed? if the car was left with no evidence, couldnt the apartment have been left the same way?

I have definitely wondered that, Sefora. My prime suspect there is someone in management of Mosaic at the time. They had the perfect excuse for being in the condo since Jennifer's parents asked them to check it out. Had her parents not asked them, they could have claimed they "heard something" and decided to check it out. 

You know, there are two pictures out there of what Jennifer's bed looked like that morning - different sets of clothes in each. Something that struck me about the clothes in the picture that I think was taken by LE is the clothes do not actually look like work clothes. I would imagine Jennifer wore blouses, sweaters, slacks and suits. Based on the picture, they looked more like casual clothes.

One thing about her condo being staged that morning...the abductor would not have known to take the second cell phone. So, most likely that would have been left in the condo.

I'll see if I can find those two different photos of the bed.

[Find_Jennifer]

Re: the clothes on Jennifer's bed:

Take a look at part one of the 48 Hours episode. At 8:08 there is a picture of Jenn's bed with a small stack of folded clothes and the bed is made. These do not look like work clothes to me. Granted I don't know what they are, but from my vantage point they look like casual clothes.

Now look at the Dateline episode. At 1:57 they show Jenn's bed unmade, with work clothes laid out and THESE look like work clothes. However, in the Dateline episode they say Jenn's parents staged this to give them an idea of what her condo looked like the day she vanished.

So is the picture from the 48 Hours episode correct? Was her bed made or unmade? Another thing I'm curious about is when Jenn made the bed would she tuck the bedspread under the pillows a little bit? This picture is how I make my bed - I just throw the bedspread over and call it good. Some people actually tuck the bedspread under the pillows a little bit. If Jenn normally tucked her bedspread in, this could suggest her bedroom was staged to make it look like she left that morning.

[Sefora]

plz excuse me if im wrong..i havent been on the forum that long..but why are there not more of jennifers friends, family, co-workers, acquaintances, neighbours etc etc on the forum?
High school friends..teachers..college freinds..etc etc.. where is everyone? As far as i know..none of us on the forum actually knew jennifer right?

I found one lady on facebook who lived underneath Jennifer but she wont join forum or say a WORD..
Does anyone find all this a little weird?

[Find_Jennifer]

A little bit, but there's probably a reason. I've said before that I think there are probably people interested in the case and Jennifer's family and friends just because they've been on TV across the country. So, it's like people see them as celebrities more than people looking for a missing loved one. That probably sounds a little weird, but I have seen people get "starstruck" over people who are not looking to be in the lime light, but rather working for a specific cause and are only in the spotlight to raise awareness for that cause. Also, think of all of the weird people who have made threats and stalked the family.  Another reason could be there are things they have been instructed NOT to say so as to not jeopardize the case.

A good question to ask might be what is the purpose of a forum on a missing person's site? Is it for people to share their thoughts and debate ideas while investigators and family/friends watch to see if there's something they have overlooked? Is it a way to get people involved in the case and raise awareness? Maybe they are hoping POI will come on here and say a little too much...hence the reason for keeping some information secret.

I like to think the Kesses...and hopefully investigators...read our thoughts to see if there's something they've overlooked. I'm guessing we come from all different walks of life and have different experiences, which guide our perspectives. It's probably nice to have as many eyes on the case as possible. Those of us who have no personal connection to the situation may be more willing to ask questions that might be difficult for the family to think, like Rob possibly being involved or a family member. (Just to clarify, I am of a strong opinion that Rob is NOT involved with Jennifer's disappearance.)

[BillM]

Drew has told us more than once that our thinking has gone in directions that OPD won't go in, for whatever reason. OPD apparently did not read our posts, but Drew certainly has, and I am sure Jennifer's friends have been here too. I asked Drew if we could privately correspond with Rob to get at some of the tiniest details that might add to the picture, but apparently he just can't do it yet. Meanwhile, for Jennifer's sake, we must keep the think tank flowing.

As for the woman who lived under Jennifer's apartment, I guess her silence is understandable, if not frustrating.

[wb]

Did the fbi go back and look at the last thing that Jennifer posted on  her facebook page.  Its a know fact that when someone post something on facebook all of your friends can see it and also can anyone who is friends with any of them.

[wb]

I have noticed that sometimes people on facebook put there cell phone number online and will sometime put pictures of where they live  and what put what kind of car they drive.

[BillM]

Good thinking in these entries!

As for the bed, the Kesses should know what it looked like, since they were there first. I sure hope multiple photos were taken that morning. But your point is well taken, and I will ask Drew that question the next time I write him. Were the clothes on her bed "normal" work clothes? Was her bed made up the way she would have made it? Has all the DNA found in her condo been identified?

I too have my suspicions about Mosaic personnel. It would be interesting to know who is still there, what the turnover has been and where the ex-employees, from contracting to maintenance to management have gone in the meantime. I think the FBI will be all over that scenario.

As for why Jennifer's friends, Rob and family do not communicate directly with forum writers, with all the trouble they have had with stalkers and worse, I am not surprised. They have been deeply traumatized by what happened to Jennifer, by the inept OPD aftermath, by the "hate attacks" and by the necessity of going over and over the same details. It is probably just too painful for them to consider.

Jennifer's last Facebook entry is also a good question.

Maybe we can get a few answers...

[wb]

This is a true story about a man who had a facebook accont, and while he was on vaction in Russia,  he saw a picture of himself that he had posted on his profile page.  please for those who are facebook member be care what pictures you put on your profile page.

[wb]

His picture was in a  russian mazine.