I believe we do need to get Rob involved because our other sources are drying up

[BillM]

Hi guys:
I have been away for a long time, and I apologize, but I got frustrated that our information (answers) was/were getting either overly vague or no answers at all. I read many of your comments a few evenings ago, and gave it one more try (a message to our search/investigate contact). I mean some of our most basic questions have not even been touched as far as a cogent answer is concerned. Things which should be possible to answer, too. Here is my e-mail message first and the little bit of answer that was returned:

Hi .....!
The last time we corresponded you seemed super busy with the Nadia Bloom search/investigation. Do you have time to answer questions from the forum about Jennifer K again?

You said that a "bunch of crap" was found in her trunk. Was is sorted through and inventoried? Sounds very un-Jennifer like to have a junked up trunk...with what...old clothes? stuff from her move which never got unpacked? Could you be more specific?

What about the dvd player that was carefully belted in the back seat, whose was it? Any ideas as to why it was belted in like an infant?

At any rate, quite a contrast with the way the trunk was in chaos.

And her sunglasses, charger and slip of paper carefully tucked into the front console? (What was on that slip of paper, anyway?)

Very neatly staged, perhaps by the POI? Why were the contents of the front and back seat basically neatly staged and the trunk so messed up? Has this been thought through?

Folks on the forum want to know how often the ponds behind her place were searched.

and if the broken fence right next to her condo was ever dusted for prints or checked for other evidence?

The anonymity of everyone who had any connection with Mosaic before and after her disappearance is totally strange. You mean nobody knew anybody's name of the workers, and other people who had access to her space? If not, it was an absolute open invitation to her abduction.

Anonymity means zero accountability. Are you sure investigators dug deep enough? Couldn't get INS to lean on contractors who hired all those illegals? Talk about (lack of) homeland security!

Somebody somewhere knew the names of workers on site in those days. They just did not dig deeply enough. These guys slept somewhere, ate somewhere, partied somewhere, sent money home from somewhere. Why the total lack of intelligence?

Why not inconvenience a scofflaw contractor by dragging worker after worker into depositions about who they knew worked at Mosaic, who was there, who was absent. Alot of trouble? Sure! But this is how cases are cracked early.

There was motive..Jennifer had complained more than once or twice about the leering workers, the propositions, the indecent comments (you don't have to be fluent in Spanish)

There was sure as rain the opportunity and the code of silence that OPD did little to break.

Put those two together and you've got probable cause. Yet the guilty (if the workers were indeed the ones) were given a quick, we can't do anything look and the best, beginning avenue of investigation was given the u turn..no wonder the Kesse's are still frustrated.

If this scenario had been thoroughly investigated, we would know if Jennifer had been opportunity abducted or trafficked. We still don't and we may never know.

Please respond to this synopsis of what the forum has been discussing for the past year or more.

with prayers for Jennifer.

Here is his answer, which I do not think will hurt to share with you at this point:

"Will have to ask about more car stuff, they Orlando police are no longer talking to anyone. Including me.
Ponds at or near her appt. Have been searched 20-30 times. Side scan, k9 etc.

Getting answers is very difficult,  the detective. Is no longer communicating with me unless he has a segment to be searched."

I would hope that this investigation is entering into a very sensitive time thus explaining why the stony silence from OPD to our sources.

But maybe they are just tired of being criticized, judged or second guessed?

At any rate, maybe Rob could answer some of the questions outlined above? It's worth a try...

[jessica]

Bill- Those are some good questions I had not even thought of before. I had no idea about the trunk in disarray. Could it mean she was placed in the trunk and fought while in there? I read maybe from an interview with Jennifers dad that the workers soon started leaving Mosaic as the investigators were searching for her (as if they were running away from LE)? Isn't this an obvious sign that they could be involved? Why have these contractors that hired the illegals received no repurcusions for the disappearance? In the US you cannot hire employees without proper id or social security card so why have the contractors gotten away with this. LE should of asked them for a roster of employees the exact day of her disappearance. If they could not produce one then they should be fined to the extent of the law. How were they paying the workers? (with cash?) another obvious sign that they were breaking the law. In my opinion, Mosaic management and the contractors should of been sued in civil court. There actions were so incredibly neglectful and unsafe that it most likely led to the disappearance of Jennifer. I doubt that Mosaic gave any king of warning to its residents that illegals were working there and to be careful. I stand with you, Bill, in that Jennifer's disappearance frustrates me. Especially having the survillance of POI it should of generated some clues about her disappearance and it has not. My guess is that POI was a worker and as soon as LE began searching Mosaic he skipped town.

[Sefora]

glad to hear from u Bill.
what im really curious is if LE is hiding stuff from public knowledge. There is no evidence..no leads nothing..

[Find_Jennifer]

Bill- Those are some good questions I had not even thought of before. I had no idea about the trunk in disarray. Could it mean she was placed in the trunk and fought while in there? I read maybe from an interview with Jennifers dad that the workers soon started leaving Mosaic as the investigators were searching for her (as if they were running away from LE)? Isn't this an obvious sign that they could be involved? Why have these contractors that hired the illegals received no repurcusions for the disappearance? In the US you cannot hire employees without proper id or social security card so why have the contractors gotten away with this. LE should of asked them for a roster of employees the exact day of her disappearance. If they could not produce one then they should be fined to the extent of the law. How were they paying the workers? (with cash?) another obvious sign that they were breaking the law. In my opinion, Mosaic management and the contractors should of been sued in civil court. There actions were so incredibly neglectful and unsafe that it most likely led to the disappearance of Jennifer. I doubt that Mosaic gave any king of warning to its residents that illegals were working there and to be careful. I stand with you, Bill, in that Jennifer's disappearance frustrates me. Especially having the survillance of POI it should of generated some clues about her disappearance and it has not. My guess is that POI was a worker and as soon as LE began searching Mosaic he skipped town.

This is where much of my frustration comes in!! You are exactly right - anybody who is employed in the U.S. has to provide at least two forms of identification, give their social security number, proof of their right to work in the country, references, phone numbers, sometimes their past 5 addresses etc. Hell, some have to pee in a freakin' cup. Sometimes when you're just applying for the job companies want that information upfront! Even if Jennifer was not abducted on Mosaic property, they should still be in trouble for running such a shady business, as should the construction company. They put Jennifer and their residents' lives in jeopardy by acting so irresponsibly. It is interesting to me that Mosaic is no longer under the same management as they were in 2006. Hopefully that management got into major trouble.

[Find_Jennifer]

P.S. - Glad you're back, Bill!

[BillM]

Jessica, very simply, Amen, Amen, Amen and I think we are experiencing just a taste of the frustration Drew and Joyce have experienced from Day 1.

I never thought about the reason you gave (Jennifer's struggle) for the chaos in her trunk, and I am beginning to wonder if the police ever did.

The workers were paid in cash, daily, they came and went as they felt like it. However, like I said, there must have been a crew leader who had some knowledge of who was working where and for how long and on what, knowledge which went largely uninvestigated, as far as we know. An open door to what happened to Jennifer.

All your comments are right on, Jessica

[BillM]

I once read a forwarded e-mail concerning all the benefits you get as an illegal alien. The greatest of which, in my mind, is good paying work, maybe $10 an hour, with absolutely no accountability. The contractors who set Jennifer up for her abduction by what they FAILED to do should be in jail. Instead, they laughed it off on the way to the bank, for all we know.

In France it is called, refus de porter secours à une personne en danger, which is a very broad statute that makes YOU liable if your actions or lack of action puts another life in danger.

In the US, it could be considered "reckless endangerment", but the problem is, no body or no whereabouts of Jennifer Kesse. It is probably the biggest scandal, even bigger than police ineptitude, in this whole mess.

My only remaining hope, is that the total lack of security, guards that could not even copy down a freaking license plate number correctly (what were they smoking on their $20 an hour cush job?), the total openness of Mosaic in January 2006 emboldened the traffickers before a rapist/murderer/serial sex offender got to her.

[Find_Jennifer]

I don't see the answer about the DVD player in this post...I'm sure it's right in front of me and I'm just not seeing it...but where? lol

[BillM]

Here's what I said to our contact and got no direct answer..that's why I wish we could confidentially contact Rob..we are not getting any answer to very simple, even trivial questions..frustrating:

What about the dvd player that was carefully belted in the back seat, whose was it? Any ideas as to why it was belted in like an infant?

At any rate, quite a contrast with the way the trunk was in chaos.

And her sunglasses, charger and slip of paper carefully tucked into the front console? (What was on that slip of paper, anyway?)

Very neatly staged, perhaps by the POI? Why were the contents of the front and back seat basically neatly staged and the trunk so messed up? Has this been thought through?

There it is!

[Find_Jennifer]

Ok - thank you!

[jessica]

I'm thinking that the charger and sunglasses were left exactly as Jennifer had them. So there is a
contrast between the trunk and the inside
of the car. Judging from jennifers condo pics she is pretty neat remember the clothes folded neatly on her bed picture. I don't know if Poi would want to arrange stuff and get fingerprints like on the lenses of the sunglasses.

[wb]

I agree to Bill M we need to get Rob involed.  Durning my recent trip to Orlando I took the time to look to see if I could see any fedex dropoff place mailboxs near by.  I didnt see any drop off places.  though I did see plenty of trucks going down the road.

[Find_Jennifer]

You were in Orlando, wb? Did you happen to pass HOG or Jennifer's complex during your trip? If so, did you have any thoughts about the location or places that would sufficiently hide any evidence?

[wb]

Yes Find Jennifer I got to be in Orlando for a few day this past week.  No I didnt get a chance to pass by Jennifer Condo or by HOG. I didnt have any thoughts about where to hid any evidence.  I did have a though though this morning. Does anyone remember when that hurricane katria hit the the coast of Miss, and lousia.  Did that happen before or after jennifer disappeared.

[Find_Jennifer]

Katrina was in 2005, so it was before Jenn vanished.